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so he was not meant to die that way. >> reporter: he's not alone anymore. he has wanda and three grandchildren that visit regularly. wanda says this is a story not just about fate, but forgiveness. >> and he says now that, you know, he's ready to die. he's okay, and he's at peace, because he says i met you, wanda, and i'm proud of you. life goes on, and you be proud. you be proud. >> bye, daddy. i'll see you. and at the top of the hour, cnn "newsroom" continues with my colleague ali velshi. >> brook, great speaking to you a while ago. have a fantastic day. as brook said, consider me your guide the next two hours. we're breaking down ideas and seeking out innovation. we're about to -- giving you access and understanding what's going on. let's get started. here's what i've got on the rundown. the battle between -- well, the battle about immigration reform continues to play out every day
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in this country. but today we are going to take a fresh angle, one that translates into dollars and cents. we're going to look at whether this battle is costing the u.s. economy tons of money. plus, you know rick sanchez as the outspoken host of cnn's "rick's list" but did you know he was once an impoverished refugee? i've read his book, we'll talk about it live. and an electric car that goes 307 miles an hour. i know you're not interested in going that fast on the highway any time soon. but the technology behind the buckeye bullet could help build our future cars. i'll talk about that, as well. but first, defending religious freedom in this country continues to be a hot issue. there is an emergency meeting under way right now in d.c. an interfaith meeting. it is a meeting to talk about this growing islamaphobia in this country. we're bringing you that in a moment. but i want to bring you back to why this is an issue.
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and it all goes back to the proposed construction of a mosque and islamic center near ground zero. this is the property that's being looked at. it's called park 51. that's the project. it was an old burlington coat factory. we talk about it as being -- or some people talk about it as being at ground zero or near ground zero. it's about two blocks away from the world trade center site, if you can see it. you can't see the world trade center site from it, nor can you see it from the world trade center site. but the concept of building this islamic center that has a mosque in it so close to ground zero has got emotions inflamed across this country. let's check in on this news conference that this group is having right now. >> people are using that lack of knowledge and that anxiety for ideological purposes. either because politically or religiously they simply do not like muslims.
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and they are fermenting dislike and hatred against muslims in this country in a way that's very alarming. having spoken to many families across the country over the last few weeks, i have heard many muslim americans say they have never felt this anxious or this insecure in america since directly after september 11th. they're nervous about their children as they head back to school. this week. that when they go to school, that they're going to face people who are looking at them as aliens. when, in fact, they're citizens who are born in this country. they are afraid about going out in public. there have been a number of incidents of harassment, of just ordinary people going out about doing their daily business. and that's not something that we want to see grow and continue. freedom of religion is, as i say, a hallmark of this country. the muslims who immigrated to
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the united states, many of them came here for religious freedom. because even if they were in the majority in their country, perhaps they were of the wrong secretar sect or the wrong expression of islam. and so we know what it means to live in an environment where that freedom is taken away. and that is why as american muslims we also have been very a asiddous in the last years to make sure we have the freedom we use in this country to also promote religious freedom and liberty as a principle of islam. it is why we have signed the common word document and engaged in that as a principle of religious freedom, respect and reciprocity between christians and muslims. it's why we have engaged with our jewish colleagues in
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education of our congregations, about each other's faiths, so there is not distortion of what jews are, and what they believe, and what judyism is on the part of amuse lim muslims. so this is something we're committed to, and want to make sure that we're able to continue to fulfill this role. american muslims have a unique ability to be this bridge and to show the muslims who do not live in this kind of freedom that an open, pluralistic atmosphere, where there are diverse religions living together can really be good for everyone. with that introduction, i would like to introduce my colleague, rabbi david tappersteen, director the religion action network to say a few words. >> i know like dr. michael kinnerman, who is the general
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secretary of the national council of churches of christ, we're really to have co hosted this with the islamic society of north america, and we thank them for the extraordinary work on such short notice. we are all in their debt. for those of us who are jews who are part of this undertaking, both who are here, and some who couldn't be, because of proximity of the holiday, but were part of the preparation for this, we could be nowhere else. we have been the quintessential victims of religious persecution and discrimination throughout history. we know what it is like when people have attacked us verbally, have attacked us physically, and others have remained silent. it cannot happen. here in america. in 2010. without the response of the
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religious community. and we speak out, because we know that hate crimes and hate speech are not mere acts of disreputable talk, of murder, or assaults or arsons. or derrissive conversation. they're attacks of our pillars, the guarantors of our action. they erode our national well-being. and those who commit those crimes do so fully intending to pull apart the too-freyed, often-freyed -- to pull apart the too often freyed threads that bind us together, and that make us strong. these people seek to divide and conquer. they do package damage to america across the globe. they do damage to us internally. they seek to tear us apart from
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within. pitting american against american, fermenting violence, civil discord. and we stand here to say that is not who we are. as americans, and as religious leaders. that is not what we are about. it is not what our religions are about, and it is not what this nation is about. we are -- have released now a statement on behalf of all of us who are gathered here. we know it represents the sentiments and commitments of religious leaders throughout america. i believe you have copies or if you don't yet, they are available on the way out. it was a powerful experience shaping this statement. we came in focused on core issues of religious liberty, and realized as we talked about this moment that dr. matson has so poignantly and urgently
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described that we ought to speak more directly to the anti muslim bigotry that is going on across america today. and in reshaping the statement, it was focused on that. and i'm going to call on two of our distinguished members of our group, dr. gerald durly, the pastor of the providence and missionary baptist church in atlanta, georgia and well-known figure going back to the days of the civil rights movement in the united states. and dr. nancy cramer, rabbi claim e a professor who specializes in intergroup relations at the reconstructionist college. it is my pleasure to call on them now to read three brief excerpts from the statement that has been issued. >> thank you, very much, rabbi sappersteen. what an honor and a privilege it is for me, having stood on the
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mall 47 years ago under similar circumstances, where we were talking about liberty and justice for all. the statement that we have worked together collectively reads thusly. religious leaders denounce anti muslim bigotry and call for respect for america's tradition a religious liberty. as religious leaders in this great country, we have come together in our nation's capital to denounce categorically bigotry being directed against the muslim community. we bear a sacred responsibility to honor america's very faithly traditions and to promote a culture of mutual respect and the assurance of religious fro dom for all. in advance of nining anniversary of the terrorist attacks of september 11th, 2001, we announce a new era of interfaith
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cooperation. >> thank you. we are profoundly distressed and deeply saddened by the incidents of violence committed against muslims in our communities. and by the desecration of islamic houses of worship. we stand by the principle that to attack any religion in the united states is to do violence to the religious freedom of all americans. the threatened burning of copies of the holy koran this saturday is a particularly egregious offense that deserves the strongest possible condemnation of all who value civilly in public life and sick to honor the memory of those who lost their lives on september 11th. as religious leaders, we appalled by such disrespect for
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a sacred text that for centuries has shaped many of the great cultures of our world, and that continues to give spiritual comfort to more than 1 billion muslims today. >> we are convinced that spiritual leaders representing the various faiths in the united states have a moral obligation to stand together and to denounce categorically derician, misinformation or outright bigotry directed against any religious group in this country. silence. silence. silence is not an option. only by taking this stand can spiritual leaders fulfill the highest calling of our respective faiths. and thereby help to create a safer and stronger america for all of our people. >> thank you, so much.
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now i would like to call up the reverend cardinal theodore mccaric, the archbishop emeritus of washington. we were together last in rome, where we were -- we both signed a document, a statement after meeting to discuss the common word document in which we supported international religious freedom, freedom for religious minorities everywhere in the world. i was very honored to be with him there for that week in rome, and also to join him today. >> doctor, thank you. i'm honored to be here. i'm really representing gregory, who is the archbishop of atlanta, chairman of the catholic bishop's conference on interfaith relations. so i'm delighted that i have a chance to be with you. i say to my brother, i was there 47 years ago, too.
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and when dr. martin luther king spoke to beautifully, that's one of the memories you never forget, because that was such a powerful moment in the history of our country. is this another powerful moment. or it's the moment that calls for a powerful response. i think that's what my brothers and sisters here have been doing, to give a prayerful and yet a firm and yet a constant response. and that's what we need. this is where we are. want to say just two things. first of all, why are we doing this? well, i think for two reasons. first of all, we're doing it because we have to do it. i don't think we have a choice. i think that document that was just read talking about the responsibility of religious leaders is a document that really tells the story. religious leaders cannot stand by in silence. had things like this are happening, when things like this are affecting the -- so many good, wonderful people around our country, who have brought islam to the shores, and who are playing a role in our society,
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which is constructive and which is excellent. i think we have to reach out to them and say, look, we're happy you're here. we love you. and we understand that bearing false witness against your neighbor is against the koran, is against the bible, is against the gospels. and this is why we are here. so we have to be here. i think there is another reason. the other reason is that i have the great fear that the story of bigotry, the story of hatred, the story of animosity to others is going to be taken by some to be the story of the real america, and it's not. this is not america. this is not our country. and we have to make sure that our country is known around the world as a place where liberty of religion, where respect for your neighbor, where love your neighbor and these things are, are most prominent in our society. america was not built on hatred. america was built on love. and if we get away from that, and give that message out to the
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world, it's the wrong message. our message is a message of working together, working for each other, taking care of the person who needs help, and making sure that we try to live everybody together in a good and holy life. that's what america is. and that's the message that i pray that we will get out to all of the people of the world, so that they will know who we are, and who we're trying to be. so it's a great joy for me and a great privilege to be here. thank you. >> thank you, cardinal mccaric. next we'll hear from reverend richard sizic, who is the president of the new evangelical california partnership for the common good, a truly visionary leader. >> thank you for inviting me, ing ingrid. we represent one of the largest constituencies that america has. that is the religious
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constituency, with all of its breadth that you see here from roman catholic to protestant to evangelical california, orthodox, we are here. and we are here to say what has already been said, namely that we are governed in this country by a constitution whose first amendment guarantees the free exercise of religion. and governments at every level have understood that they have to respect that right from the largest cities of our nation, such as new york to the smallest, such as murder feesburrow, tennessee. protection of religious liberty is what evangelical christians have most of all come to appreciate. it is the one practice, i think, that i think is most exceptional about america. and by the way, millions have come here through the centuries, because of it. including millions of evangelical christians.
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now, we know that the controversy that began at park 51, you see, has become exhibit a in this contest between popular passion and constitutional principle. but that contest has moved into the smallest of communities around america. and i'm here to say, on behalf of my community, the evangelical constituency of america, that those mainly conservative christians who were responding to their muslim brothers and sisters, their fellow americans, with anti muslim bigotry or hatred, they are openly rejecting, you see, the first amendment principles of religious liberty, which we, as evangelical christians benefit daily. and those -- to those who would
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exercise derision, you see, bigotry, open rejection of our fellow americans for their religious faith, i say shame on you. as an evangelical, i say to those who do this, i say, you bring dishonor to the name of jesus christ. you directly disobey his commandment to love our neighbor. you violate the command, you see, not to bear false witness. and not least of all, you drive the watching world further away from any interest in our gospel message. lastly, let me say one more thing. watch out for so casually trampling on the religious liberty of others.
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you may be able to do that when you are the majority. but if you undermine liberty for other people's children today, your own children may one day see their religious liberties deprived from them. and the principles that protect muslims today here in this country will protect christians, jews and others tomorrow. and that's what makes this a great, great country. and i thank you for being here. >> all right. we have been listening into leaders of various faith in dc, discussing not only this growing islamaphobia, but very specifically bigotry, an increasing wave of bigotry, against muslims. some of which, by the way, have manifested in violent attacks. we saw one against a cab driver
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in new york last week. we have seen the arson at a mosque under construction, in tennessee. there have been other examples of this. i want to speak to mark potak, with the law center, following this closely. i don't know if you had a chance to listen to this press conference, but it was jewish leaders, christian leaders, the cardinal of washington, all speaking to why this is so dangerous beyond the fact that it's bigotry against a particular religious agroup. why this is an attack on religious freedom in america. and the last speaker just said, if you so casually trample on the religious liberty of others, it may be your children whose liberties are trampled on. your thoughts, mark. >> well, i think that's absolutely correct. i couldn't agree more. i did hear much of the news conference, and virtually everything i heard seemed to be right on. this really is a question of constitutional freedoms. and organizebl arguably, the mo
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precious freedom of all, freedom of religion. another piece of my action is while i'm delighted to hear this interfaith group of people really taking on a problem that has grown to quite massive proportions, what we haven't heard so much of is political leaders coming out. and responding to this, especially on one particular side of the aisle. you know, i think it is worth remembering that immediately after 9/11, we saw anti muslim hate crimes in this country go up 1700%. >> right. >> after that, though, president bush came out and gave some very good speeches, which sounded rather similar to what we have been listening to at the news conference. >> right. >> and then the following year, those numbers dropped by over 66%. by over two-thirds. >> mark -- >> the political leaders can do something. >> we did have president obama come out with a fairly strong statement at the beginning of ramadan, and he was roundly
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criticized by republicans and many of his own democrats. senator harry reid, surprised to some, came out quite strongly opposed to where -- the nucleus of this thing, the islamic center in new york. it does not appear that politicians, as you mentioned, have been -- have come down on this strongly for fear of backlash, possibly with two months to go before a midterm election. >> i think it's all about the midterm elections. i don't think there is much doubt about it at all. because, you know, the worst players in this have been leading politicians. you know, newt gingrich making the comparison of muslimsnd nazis. or the national republican trust political action committee describing the park 51 project as a celebration of the murders of 3,000 americans. i mean, these are just falsehoods, as opposed to -- you know, showing any kind of real leadership. and as i tried to suggest earlier, i think it really makes a difference. >> marks i want to ask you a question. and as a journalist, i ask you this, because we have been
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discussing endlessly, and in our news rooms, and i'm sure this is going on across the country, as this hate against muslims -- the arson of the mosque and a fire burning of a mosque in florida, the attack on the cabby in new york, hate signs and vandalism at a mosque in california. and now this issue of a pastor in florida who has called upon people to burn korans on september 11th. at what point, as media and society, do we say, this isn't just about a bunch of assorted quacks and big ots. they are tapping into some sort of a national sensibility that needs a counter attack? >> well, i think that moment is upon us. i do think that, you know, the most important thing, and best role in the sense that the media can play is to call out the real liars, the people who are saying things that are really false about muslims in general, and
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islam in particular. i think that that's a really salutary role that can be played. i also think it's worth throwing light on some of the more fringe characters who are throwing in on this and trying to get their day in the kind of media sunshine. in particular, the center down in florida, which is planning to burn a koran day. most of our viewers probably don't know this, but the church, prior to attacking muslims and the koran in this way, went after, as they charmingly called it, the local homo mayor. so some of the people involved in this are really on the fringe, and have managed to get attention by doing the most unimaginable thing, burning of the koran, and we remember a koran being flushed down a toilet and what resulted in fury around the globe. >> mark, this is a very holy
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week for a few religious, islam and judaism and it's bringing those faiths together, to denounce religious freedom. mark, thanks for a good conversation. mark potak with the southern poverty law center. we will bring more about this in the next hour. i'll be breaking down some of the uglier episodes in american history when it comes to religious freedom. i also want to talk about the debate over immigration. it comes down to dollars and cents. how is this battle hurting our economy, hurting you? you don't to miss this discussion. day. driving home nails quickly and easily in the tightest spaces. more innovation, more great values. craftsman. trust. in your hands.
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teens and sheeleep. does more improve their performance at school? elizabeth cohen reports. >> reporter: it's 5:22 in the morning, and 16-year-old rene is already getting up for school. a junior at park view high school, his bus comes at 6:20. the first bell rings at 7:25. >> yeah, 6:15. >> reporter: rene's parents say he's not getting enough sleem sleep. >> it's normal bedtime is around 11:00, and he wakes up around 5:00, so he gets about six hours. >> reporter: doctors say teens need nine hours of sleep. rene says that's never going to happen. >> nine hours of sleep? i don't think that's possible for high school, if you have to get up at 5:00 or 6:00. it means you're going to be in bed by 8:00 or 9:00. and i'm not trying to be in bed
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by 8:00 or 9:00. >> reporter: experts say 80% of high school students are sleep depriv deprived. why don't they just stop playing video games and go to bed earlier? teen sleep expert judith owen says don't blame the teens. she says they're biologically programmed to stay up later. >> there clearly is a shift in adolescence to a natural bedtime and wake time being two or even three hours later than it was when they were, say, in elementary school. >> reporter: she wants high schools to consider starting later. she did a study at st. george george school in rhode island where they delayed start time by 30 minutes, and the results were stunning. kids were much more alert. >> what we learn and had saw was so overwhelmingly positive that i think all of us were probably taken a little bit aback by that. starting school later actually got kids to bed earlier. and we think that was in large part because by virtue of them being better rested, they were
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able to be more efficient and get their work done. >> reporter: emory university sleep expert dr. david schulman says starting high school before 8:30 a.m. is shoort-changing students and endangering their overall health. >> it's asking for trouble. they're going to be sleep deprived and have poor academic and interpersonal performance. >> reporter: rene's parents would love it if school started later and their son could get even just a few more precious minutes of sleep. >> if you have more sleep, then you can be a better athlete, you can be a better student, you can do everything more productive, because you're functioning better on better sleep. time now for your money. could the battle over immigration and so-called islamaphobia in this country be hurting our economy? let's talk about immigration. immigrants taking american jobs, too many immigrants. illegal immigrants. let's dissect. joining me is the author of the book "the great reset." richard florida. if you want to know about stuff in this economy read richard's
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books. always a pleasure to see you. thank you for being back here. i want to tap into a conversation that you have been having lately. it's in your book. but this idea that our fear, our fear of immigration, this growing phobia is actually going to make america less competitive in the years ahead. a controversial thesis. tell me about it. >> well, immigrants have powered our economy since its inception from the birth of the steel industry, with andrew carnegie, a scottsman with the rise of the semiconductors, to the both of those silicon valley companies, half of which the googles, the yahoos, the companies that power the u.s. economies, were founded by an immigrant to the fact that half all our science and technology phds come from foreign countries. the u.s. is a high-tech country in large measure because it's
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been open to the best and brightest throughout the world and closing the door on immigration or even mounting anti immigrant sentiment is not good for the economy, because people who go with talent -- they'll stay home or go elsewhere and start those companies that we need to provide to jobs for americans. >> one of the places you have talked about them going is where you are right now. you're in toronto. and you have talked about the fact that canada, and listen, let's not sugar-coat it. it's not that everybody in canada thinks there are no issues with immigration. but canada has developed a different view of immigrants that you argue is more welcoming. >> well, i just looked at the data. you know, people are yelling and screaming about this in arizona, and 15% of the work force or the population is immigrants. in the united states, the city with the highest percentage of immigrants is miami. it's about 35%. in toronto or vancouver, virtually half the people are immigrants or what we call in canada, new canadians. and i think, yeah, there are problems here in canada. but the problem is, should the
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immigrant who is driving a cab but has a degree in dentistry or law or health care, should they be able to use their skills fully and build the economy and and i'll tell you what's really interesting. over in vancouver, which has an equal percentage of immigrants and have been attracting immigran immigrants from asia, when microsoft had to build a new laboratory, it said we can't get the skilled people in the seattle area. they put it in vancouver, not because the people had he needed were in vancouver, but because they could bring people from asia, and europe, get them the visas, and put them to work, jobs that should have ended up in vancouver as a result of restrictions on the u.s. not a good thing for the u.s. economy. >> i want to tap into that when we come back. what exactly is the u.s. losing out on, what can they lose out on specifically, because of what might be an anti immigrant sentiment in the united states. richard, stay there. i'll be back with you. more from richard florida after the break. hostcould switching i really save you 15% or more car insurance?
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do you foresee in your data-driven world evidence that that hurts us in any way? >> i think so. i think what i found is, when there is prejudice or discrimination or backlash against any ethnic group or immigrant group, it chills the climate for immigrants to come to the united states. and i think that climate has been chilling now ever since 9/11. so what i'm find something a lot of talented people who would have come to the united states from india, from china, are deciding to stay home or going where they're being welcome, whether australia or new zealand or coming up to toronto or vancouver where they feel more welcome. . and also with these times of cris crises, great resets, these are times where the global flow of ambitious people shifts. one of the things that benefited the united states in the last crisis, the 1930s, we attracted all of the jewish-european, jewish-americans who helped build our technology industries,
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albert einsteins or fritz lang who helped build our hollywood industry. so this is the worst time to have an anti islamic sentiment or anti immigrant sentiment in general, because it's going to hurt the economy at the time we need job creation the most. >> we could talk for hours. hopefully you'll come back and continue this discussion. richard florida, author and professor and author of "the great reset," a great book for everybody to read. thanks for being with us. >> thank you, ali. great being with you again. all right. talk about great ideas. how about an electric car that goes 307 miles per hour? i don't know why you need one that goes that fast, but it's these developments that change our world. so what does that mean for the cards in the future? i'll tell you about it. our big i is up next. is arm ourselves for the ones we love with a flu shot from walgreens. ♪ [ coughs ] [ female announcer ] with the most pharmacists certified to immunize... [ sneezes ] ...and walk-ins welcome everyday, we're making it easy for everyone to get their flu shot, no matter how small their motivation may be. ♪
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307 miles per hour in a minute. but that is a land speed record. >> this vehicle called the buckeye bullet, in 2007, they had it going 200 miles per hour. if i were making an electric car, i would be quite proud of that. but they kept on going. they tweaked this little guy to get to 223 miles per hour in october of 2007. so just a couple months later. but they kept on going with this thing. by september of 2009, a year ago, 302 miles per hour. this thing is doing crazy stuff to me. and they kept on going. and now in august of 2010, a year later, look at that, 307 miles per hour. why do we need this? well, let's talk to a guy who actually knows about this. he is at the ohio state university. his name is georgio ritzoni, director for the center of automotive research, and he is going to tell us about this. georgio, thank you for being with us. we really appreciate this. tell me why it matters that we have a car, an electric car,
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that goes 307 miles per hour. >> well, first of all, thank you, ali, great to be here. well, if you think about the history and developments and technology, the quest for reaching the ultimate limit, in whatever technology you're looking at, as always been a driver for technological improvements. and so things that today may seem crazy and at the leading edge of things tomorrow will be conventional technology. so for us to look at pushing the extreme of electric vehicle propulsion systems, battery systems, is just one way of approaching the limits of technology in and discovering new things. >> so we think about it like nasa, there are all these developments we have had, i don't really need to ever go to space, but things have been improved here on earth because of those. so i don't think we're going to be driving 307 miles per hour, electric vehicles, but somehow it's going to improve the electric vehicles we do buy? >> sure. well, first of all, to give a couple quick examples, we're
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developing new technology for the powering electronics that drive the electric motors, look at new materials and designs for high-efficiency electric machines. and most important, we're looking at technology for tomorrow's batteries, for electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles. and that is probably the subject area that needs the most work and the most study at this point. so looking at the extreme conditions. >> sorry, georgio. for those of us who are neophytes in this, we know the battery issue is the big deal. tell me in a nutshell what the challenges are. >> well, first of all, the simplest challenge with batteries today is that they're still quite expensive some. so you're looking at electric vehicles that might have a battery pack that is equal in cost to about half the price of a car. so that's subject number one. how do we -- do we bring the cost down of these batteries. but then you have to worry about the life span of these batteries. because batteries in an electric chemical system are much like the human body, and just like us, we start aging the day we're
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born, and batteries do the same thing, they age. one of the things we're trying to understand is how to prolong the life of batteries, and manage them in such a way that we can extend their life such that they would be compatible with the life of a vehicle. so aging and cost issues, which are related to the use of materials, but also the electronics that manage the batteries are very, very important topics today. >> all right. you've got probably one of the best jobs around. you work in cars. you are building racing cars. and you're at the head of a remarkable technology. and my executive producer says something to me like if i give you a big o-h, you give me a? >> i-o! >> all right. >> that was exactly the way it works. >> go buckeyes. georgio risoni. the director for the center for automotive research at ohio university. thanks for being with us. >> thank you very much. >> my pleasure.
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if you want to know more, go to cnn.com/ali. listen, a long, long time before rick sanchez was the host of "rick's list" he was a young refugee from cuba. he's going to join me for a very personal chat about it coming up next. one word turns innovative design into revolutionary performance. one word makes the difference between defining the mission and accomplishing the mission. one word makes the difference in defending our nation and the cause of freedom. how... is the word that makes all the difference. when i went on medicare, i did the numbers. that was the moment of truth. medicare by itself doesn't cover everything. we'd need more than that. i don't want to spend my life worrying about what would happen if one of us got sick. [ male announcer ] now more than ever, you may be wondering:
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my buddy rick sanchez. you know him. he has written a book called "conventional idiocy", and every day this week i'm talking to him about it, partially because he put me in the book. but more importantly, because there is stuff peppered through this book, rick. you've got great ideas about history and about america and things that you've had. you've got from your viewers by e-mail, twitter, on facebook. but peppered in there are stories about your own history, and when i first read this book, that's what stood out to me. that i get rick now, because i see things like this. and in here, you've got a chapter about -- or you've got a part about poverty. and about when you were young, and your brother didn't come with you from cuba to miami. tell me that story. >> communism is a funny thing, especially when totalitarianism
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takes over a country as it did in cuba. so when my mom needed to get out of cuba, essentially what she did is, she was able to get one of the last freedom flights out that castro was letting people get out on if they were older like my parents were, or very young, as i was, because i was was om about 2 or 3 years old at the time. my older brother was already about 5 or 6. and the castro government didn't let him get out. there's pictures of my mom and dad, as a matter of fact, back then. they didn't let young men at the age of 6 or 7 because they would put them in indoctrination camps. they're called young pioneers. it was part of the communist indoctrination. my mother was totally frightened by the idea that she had to leave cuba without my older brother. this happened to countless people who came from cuba. she eventually put him on a
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peter pan flight. and he was sent to a convent in arizona where he lived. we came to the united states but without my older brother and every night my mother cried and cried because she couldn't be with her oldest son. she finally made it down to the greyhound bus terminal to make her way to tuscon. >> which is where your brother was, he was in tuscon? >> my brother was in tuscon. she was going to go pick him up. >> hold on right there. >> instead, she was mugged. >> i want to discuss what happened to her when she did that. let me take a break. we'll talk about what happened right after this. male announcer] your first day. you try to lie low, get the lay of the land. but then autoblog.com calls your interior lexus quiet. and automobile magazine goes comparing you to a cadillac. ♪ so much for the new kid fitting in with the rest of the class.
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all right. rick has written his new book "conventional idio," it's available now. he was just telling us his story. his mother scraped together enough money to go meet his
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older brother who had arrived in tuscon, arizona. she's on the way to take a bus. she never makes it to the bus because she gets mugged. >> that's right. she was mugged. and what this story reflects, i think, is there's a lot in this book which is about an immigrant's perspective, what it's like to be in this country, be confused and be pained and make sacrifices because you want to make sure you live in a democracy, you want to make sure you live in the greatest country of all. and the goodness, what's good or great about america and what's bad about america came out in that story. yep, she was mugged. they took all of her money and she sat there on the stool at the greyhound terminal crying with her elbows on her knees. here's what's good about americament enough people saw what had happened to her. they collected themselves, got enough funds together and what was missing, they talked the folks there at the greyhound
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terminal into giving my mom a fare so she could go to tuscon, get my brother, bring him back and together we were able to be together and raised together in south florida. and my brother to this day runs a power plant in south florida. and i got this job doing news that nobody would have thought that a kid who has english as a second language would have been able to get. these are inspirational stories because they're really about what everybody in this country can achieve, not just me. >> and it's the stuff that makes you you. somebody actually asked me -- we've been getting a lot of tweets about this. somebody said, why do you need to talk to rick for five days about this? because you talk to people every single day and this tells me about you. this informs your perspective. it tells me why you think the way you do. >> i think this way because i connect now with 140,000 people on twitter every day who also share with me their stories, that also go untold,
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unfortunately. the reason i call this book "conventional idiocy" is too often we think conventional wisdom is the only thing that's out there. that's all too often what the pundits and is so-called experts say this is the way things you are and you have to accept it that way. no, we don't. as a matter of fact, there's a lot of great americans out there who talk to me and they talk to you and they say, i don't understand this. i don't understand why these politicians are locked ideologically on their ground whether on the left or on the right. >> because the rest of us have to solve problems. >> that's exactly right. and i think it's time for americans to connect with each other, talk to each other and use our institutional media along with this social media so that we can come together again as a country. i think it's very possible. >> it's a great read. i appreciate you writing it. hope you're having a good time up in new york. we'll talk again tomorrow. >> it's always a pleasure, ali,
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thanks so much. we were just talking about everything that's going on right now. so much is motivated by the midterm elections. 56 days away but some candidates are already thinking about 2012. wait till you see who is headed to iowa. [v:tv][c
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there on thursday. sarah palin is there next week. and mitt romney is going to be there in the fall and he's going to be talking about 25 congressional candidates that he's going to be stomping for throughout the midterm elections. topic "b," as you know, this has not been a great summer for congressional democrats. so what are republicans going to do? they are trying to remind you of it. and now the republican senatorial has a campaign out on that topic, talking about unemployment numbers, the stimulus program, the possibility of a double-dip recession. just for some added footage, they've added in the president's trip to martha's vineyard, the first lady's trip to spain. and the question they ask is -- how was your summer? third topic, ali, we have, of course, here in ohio. i have a question for you. president here tomorrow, guess how many times he's been to
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ohio -- very important swing state -- since he's been president? >> i only know because i heard it earlier. this is his tenth trip now? >> reporter: yep. it is his tenth trip. so you knew already, all right. but it's his second in a month. in fact, he and joe biden have been here four times in the last three weeks. so you think it's important? you bet it is. >> it's important. and like we talked about in pennsylvania yesterday, pennsylvania and ohio face the nation's problems in a microcosm. they have every problem that we've got. it's important -- if the president can connect to that, if candidates can connect to that, that will be good for voters. good to see you again, gloria -- >> reporter: good to see you. >> gloria borger in columbus, ohio. new hour, new rundown. he is one of the most controversial and outspoken directors out there. now he is bringing back a controversial character and the timing couldn't be better. oliver stone joins me live to
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talk about his "wall street" sequel and more. and tenure, the type job safety net that most teachers strive for. the idea of loosening it would be unthinkable until now. the cnn election express is on the road counting down to election day. we've been getting an earful from angry voters. we're taking you to ohio this hour. but first, the issue of defending religious freedom has come to the floor once again. we've been talking about it for weeks because of the proposed islamic center with a mosque in downtown manhattan. let me just remind you what this is all about. there is an islamic center that has been proposed on a site that is otherwise a commercial site. it's two blocks from ground zero. here's a map that i can show you a little bit more on. you can see ground zero is the square in the middle of the map. you can see the cultural center with the mosque in it is about two blocks away. you can't see one from the other. they're not in proximity in that fashion. there are a lot of stores in
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between. but this has created such turmoil. y you know all about that. it's kicked up emotions that have led to attacks and violence. we talked the cabbie in new york city who stabbed himself after being asked his religion. that same day, there were hate signs and vandalism near fresno, california, perpetrated by the american nationalist brotherhood. on august 28th, there was an arson attack at a mosque under construction in murfreesboro, tennessee, near nashville. and in may, back in may, a small fire bomb went off at a mosque in jacksonville, florida. now an hour ago we listened to a news conference in d.c. religious leaders from many faiths were briefing the media on a meeting they had aimed at fostering collaboration.
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listen to this rabbi. >> we have been the quintessential victims of religious persecution and discrimination throughout history. we know what it is like when people have attacked us verbally, have attacked us physically and others have remained silent. it cannot happen here in america in 2010 without the response of the religious community. >> jewish and christian leaders all came together to protest and to express their outrage at recent developments, including, very specifically, the most recent outrage, a florida pastor of a very small church, ironically called the dove world outreach church in gainesville, florida, has a plan to burn copies of the koran on 9/11. pastor terry jones gave this explanation of his rationale on
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"american morning". >> we first declared september the 11th international burn a koran day for two reasons. number one, we wanted to remember those who were brult beirutly murdered on september the 11th. and wanted to send a clear message to the radical of islam. we wanted to send them a message we are not interested in their sharia low. we do not tolerate their threat, their fear, their radicalness. >> listen, religious, cultural, ethnic, bigotry or phobia in the united states is not new by any stretch. let me just take you back in time actually all the way back to 1654, before it even was the united states. the governor of the new netherland province tried to
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have refugees exspelled. 1732, the founders of the georgia colony which was seen as a religious haven back then, drew up a charter that expressly banned cath oliciscatholicism. 1915, the ku klux klan reemerged, we knew they didn't like blax. but they actually preached a gospel of anti-semitism and anti-catholicism. 1942, franklin d. roosevelt signs an executive order which led to the forced internment of 120,000 japanese and japanese americans. the good news is we get past all of this. we actually realize that these things were wrong -- at least we hope society does. let's talk again to mark potok.
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he's joining me on the phone about this. i want to ask you again, when we come to times like this where someone is going to burn a koran or someone is going to protest, that's a difference from perpetrating violent acts against people. we get into this whole first amendment, freedom of speech issue. as hateful as burning someone's religious book is, where do we come down on how we defend their right to do it just as we defend the right of these muslims to build their islamic center and mosque next to ground zero? >> well, it's certainly true that the first amendment protect that is kind of expression, it protects the burning of the american flag, among other things. so that is certainly the case. i think really what we're talking about here is not the constitutional right of free expression, to criticize a particular religion on other. but really political responsibility. that's the bottom line. it seems to me that opportunistic politicians have
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used what was essentially a relatively local controversy over the islamic center near ground zero and with an eye to the midterms have been willing to say the most remarkable and untrue things about muslims to really target them for attacks. >> one politician who i think has been remarkably steadfast in his views, in his opposition to the criticisms of the building of this mosque has been new york mayor michael bloomberg. he's done so politically. he's staying steadfast. is he an example to politicians -- >> he is absolutely an example of political courage. i completely agree. there are some on the republican side where much of it has come from -- oren hatch has come out and made a similar kind of statement. of course, he is coming from the mormon faith and understands what it is to be a member of a
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minority religion that is despised by some. but outside of that, at least in my own view, what we've really seen is an enormous amount of opportunism. >> when the president made his comments at the ramadan gathering at the white house would have set the tone, except within 24 hours he'd done what some people say was some backpedalling. >> it didn't look terribly brave. he specifically referenced the islamic center near ground zero. the next day, the white house were saying, these were general comments and didn't amount to a hill of beans, in effect. i think it's the same thing. we're seeing a form of political cowardice mixed in with -- i
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think bloomberg has been absolutely correct on this. this is a matter of a fundamental credo of this country, the freedom of religion. and that really does seem to be at the heart of our nation. back all the way to the times you were talking about and this nation. >> ba this can en3:00 out of 4 or more would have supported many of the bad things that were done then. mark, thank you very much for your insights on this. as school budgets get tighter and education reform takes center stage, one of the perks of being a teacher could soon be a thing of the past. to challenge ourselves on the most demanding track in the world. with us, in spirit, was every great car that we'd ever competed with. the bmw m5. and the mercedes-benz e63. for it was their amazing abilities that pushed us to refine, improve and, ultimately, develop the world's fastest production sedan.
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in "chalk talk," it used to be a virtually untouchable perk of the teaching profession. not so much anymore. the sputtering economy and new efforts to fix our schools have been teacher tenure under the microscope. it's usually earned after three or four years of service in a public school district. but amid one of the tightest job markets in this decade, this perk could soon become a thing of the past. >> still pretty amazed i got the job considering the market. >> reporter: it's all smiles at new teacher orientation in valley stream, new york. for these new teachers, school starts on tuesday. so does the clock on a three-year probationary period they hope ends in tenure. the union-backed safety net that protects teachers from unfair dismissal. >> it's kind of overwhelming. think about it -- imagine a
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classroom making lesson plans every week, meeting deadlines, all of this is brand new to a first-year teacher. and on top of it, trying to pass each year to get to tenure. it's a lot. >> just about every state has a tenure law on the books for public schoolteachers. it's job security in a tight labor market. but critics say it prevents districts from removing bad teachers from the classroom. >> these due process intentions were not intended to guarantee lifetime employment for teachers. but over time, it became prohibitively expensive and time-consuming for districts to attempt to fire a teacher. and today really most districts don't even attempt to do so on grounds of performance even if it's quite clear that a teacher is ineffective. >> reporter: teachers can be dismissed after receiving multiple poor evaluations in just 11 states. in other states like new york, those teachers can be fired but
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usually they're put on an improvement plan. the obama administration's "race to the top" is pressing states to rethink the evaluation process. unions say they're on board. >> at the end of the day, what teachers want more than anything else is to make a difference in the lives of kids. and we need the tools and conditions to do so. and part of that is a teacher development and evaluation system that will help us improve teaching. >> reporter: but for right now, these new teachers are more nervous about meeting their students than meeting administrators' expectations at the end of the year. this superintendent isn't concerned. he says in a tight job market, he hired top-notch candidates. >> it's definitely a buyer's market. i'm really proud of what i see. i'm excited about what they're going to bring to the classroom. >> the president's "race to the top" competition has sparked
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tenure reform in a number of states in the past six months. in florida, a measure to do away with tenure altogether passed the state legislature but it was vetoed by governor charlie crist. in colorado, student performance will now determine who is tenured in this tight labor market. and in washington, d.c. public schools, chancellor michelle ree has develop add system in which a teacher can be fired after a single poor rating. he is an award-winning director and writer. he often puts a controversial spin on his topics. oliver stone's latest movie is no exception. "wall street" money never sleeps. he joins me live after the break. r claimservice. gecko:speciallthe auto repair xpress. repairs are fast and they're guaranteed for as long as you is thisyyourcphone?ey, th! gecko: yeah, 'course. sswhere do you po you...carry... for as long as you is thisyyourcphone?ey, th! waitress: here you go. boss: thanks gecko: no, no i got it, sir.
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he's back. gordon gecko in the film "wall street". it was a memorable quote from gecko that both defined the movie and the wall street traders it portrayed. listen. >> greed, for lack of a better word, is good. greed is right. greed works. >> and that was the 1980s. jump ahead today and gecko gets out of prison in stone's sequel "wall street, money never sleeps." he's got another speech. >> one silk handkerchief. one watch. one ring. one gold money clip with no money in it.
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and one mobile phone. >> the four-time academy award-winning director, oliver stone, joins us now from our studios in new york. oliver, good to see you. welcome to the show. >> hello, ali. how are you? >> i'm well, thank you. oliver, you've made that first movie "wall street." and you often say you were sort of surprised at how it became -- it didn't -- that negative portrayal of wall street isn't necessarily what you intended to become something that people aspired to. you don't have -- you don't leave "wall street, money never sleeps" with that impression. you are very clear on what you think wall street did to our economy in this second movie. >> well, i can't say it's a documentary or anything like that. no. we always told the story -- back in 1987, it was about -- set against that world of greed. the 1980s was a new look on wall
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street. in 2008, we went back into that world and we use that as a backdrop. but we're telling stories of people, complex relationships, father/daughter, mother/son, two psychopathic traders who are after shia labeouf. it's about the betrayal between people. the 2008 backdrop which you guys covered in the media was a big marker. but it's not what the story is about. we're going on into the future. the movie ends in 2009. >> this movie is going to be released almost two years from the collapse of lehman brothers and bear stearns and that horrible summer. you say it's not a documentary but it captures the very specific feel of that time? >> oh, yeah. i think it was a great -- and that was -- we have federal reverse board meetings, we have the fall of bear stearns, the
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idea of rumors being floated that can hurt a firm -- there's three rumor montages in the movie that show you the power of internet and the power of rumor and frankly malicious gossip to hurt a company. you know very well that jimmy cohen at bear stearns went to washington and said he thought rumors might have had a very big impact on the fall of bear stearns. >> you've taken something of the reality that happened in 2007-2008 and then you fictionalized it -- >> with you in it. >> with me in it. how would you characterize how you've put it together? >> it's the same story. greed goes on. greed is an old story since the beginning of time. and i think it's a balance between greed and love and good and evil. greed sometimes works out for people in the movies. sometimes i.t. doesn't.
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love does sometimes work and sometimes it doesn't. i think what you have to find out is how it works for you. you have to find your balance here. >> right. this was -- one of the things that i struggled with when i was reporting in those days was the complexity of everything that was going on and somehow making that understandable to our audience on a daily basis where there was panic setting in. you definitely chewed -- you bit off a big, big, complicated issue. where did you decide you were going to get into the nitty-gritty? how did you get into the nitty-gritty of it? it almost feels like you've taken viewers into meetings that you weren't in but you're expressing what happened in those meetings. >> well, for example, i was fascinated by it personally with the federal reverse board. my father was a wall street broker. i wanted to know how that mystery organization works. and we hired consultants who had been in some of those meetings like brian cartwright and alex cohen. we talked to insiders from peter
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solomon. we talked to short sellers like james chanos. we talked to eliot spitzer. he did an investigation into aig. and told us quite a bit about goldman sachs and aig and in fact pointed the finger and said, go in that direction. goldman sachs and those type of banks were going long and short at the same time and were selling out on their clients. i thought that was shocking information to me, as well as the power of rumor, which amazing we show the power of that and how it can destroy a company. >> some remarkable casting in the movie. i happen to have been in it. when we come back on the other side, i want to talk about how you blend the reality of what was really going on with the creative filmmaking and i'll give you all a tease of my role in the movie when we come back.
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"wall street, money never sleeps," the sequel to the 1987 blockbuster "wall street." oliver stone is back with us. when we were reporting on the financial crisis in 2008, it sometimes felt like we were in movie. you've captured a lot of that using actual track and actual things that happened on tv and many of the players who were involved at the time. and, in fact, i'm hoping my life changes on september 24th because you've made me into a star. i want to show our viewers a little clip that had me in it from the movie. >> anyone who doesn't admit that is just kidding themselves.
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>> ali, i disagree. >> you have to look a little bit hard to find it. but it's there. oliver, you really reached out to a lot of people who had some involvement in this, either from the financial world or from the world of financial journalism. give me your thoughts about this melding of reality and fiction. >> well, i like to do that in my movies. but i thought you were really a star, ali. i mean that. i use mostly cnbc people because they cover this round the clock. but when i saw you, i knew that bald dome was going to go all the way. i'm glad i put you with anthony because he's got a real point. he takes the hard line. he says, let it go, let the banks go. and then you take the consensus point of view which is what washington did and say, no, we have to save the system. so i'm still wondering what the upshot of that is going to be.
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the bubble is out there and you never know. the volatility that shocked me since my father's day was the volatility that exists now. you don't know in the morning what's going to happen at the end of the day. i always felt there was more of a sense of security even back in the 1980s. >> you often in your movies have a particular view that is outside of the consensus view. but in this particular case, history has seemed to have verified the fiction that you put together, that there really were rumors that affected wall street, there really were bad actors on wall street in many ways. >> oh, yeah. i think that's what the internet and the television coverage -- when we did the original "wall street" we didn't have back-to-back business coverage that you have now. everybody's talking, i think sometimes too much. and they get overheated. the business news has grown into like sports or movie news. it's nonstop. i'm not so sure that's good for the system, although it's more transparent.
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but it does lead to circles of viciousness and rumor and hype. and stocks drop -- look at what happened a new months ago, the market just crashed. what's going to happen? it does scare me and i think it's the nature of the modern world, i suppose. >> oliver, let me ask you this -- i wondered about this when you were shooting this a year ago thinking, by the time it comes out, the speed with which things have developed in the world of business, i wonder that it may be outdated. it's kind of interesting how it's dovetailing with exactly how things are falling out. >> well, so did the original. when we did the original, we didn't know -- it was a business movie. it was not a genre it was popular like the western. we came out and, boom, the market crashed right before the movie came out. i hope that doesn't happen in the next couple of weeks. i don't think it will. but we didn't make the movie to be timely. we made the movie to be classic call. we concentrated on story lines.
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those five people covered in the movie are like five sharks in a tank. they all have a game to play and they're all interacting. that was the idea, stick to the story line and that will get us through the movie. i never wanted to make it about 2008. it would have killed us but it's been overcovered. but i love that it's in the background. >> i look forward to seeing it in the theaters. oliver, thanks for joining us. >> i'm sure you'll be there. >> i'll be there. we're going to go to the other side of the world now. no letting up for pakistan. the flooding death toll rises again. there's no end in site. we're going globe trekking. so, we set out to discover the nutritional science in some of nature's best ingredients. we created purina one with smartblend. nutritionally optimized with real salmon, wholesome grains and essential antioxidants, for strong muscles, vital energy, a healthy immune system, and a real difference in your cat.
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time now to go globe trekking. first stop is pakistan. the death toll from the weeks of monsoon flooding has now topped 1,700. that figure is expected to rise substantially has more and more people fall victim to water-borne diseases. the u.n. has set up 1,200 mobile health clinics across the country. but dr. sanjay gupta has just returned from pakistan. he says it's not enough. he talked about the disaster today on "american morning." >> reporter: it's interesting, every time there's a natural disaster, there's always discussion afterward about a second wave of disease coming. the good news is that oftentimes that doesn't materialize. we didn't really see it in port-au-prince, haiti, after the tsunami. in part because you can get clean water which is so important to people to prevent the diseases. here, we had already started to see the second wave start to develop, in large part because there is so much bad water in
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the country and not enough good water. imagine millions of people outside. they've got no clean water. all they have is what you're looking at on your screen, that contaminated water. after a while, people drink that and they were getting sick and they're getting sick by the millions. there's a real second wave here of significant disease and without basic resources it's going to lead to staggering mortality as well in pakistan. is it enough, your question about the u.n.? it's hard to say. if you look at a map and really look at how many areas have been affected. keeping in mind that pakistan, even under the best of conditions -- i was there after the earthquake, for example -- even under good conditions, it's tough to navigate. with flooding, it's impossible to get to people without some type of aerial support. forget medical care. just getting them food and water becomes very daunting. i don't know if it's enough. it's going to be tough to say that for sure. i think we're going to see some
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terrible numbers coming out of pakistan in the weeks and months to come. >> and u.n. officials now say another flood crisis is building in the eastern province of baluchistan. now to chile, those 33 miners have been underground for more than a month now. a team from nasa just returned from the mine site where they gave tips to the rescue officials and spoke to the miners and their families. it included two medical doctors, a psychologist and an engineer. at a news conference in houston, the nasa team praised the chilean rescue effort. one of several points they stressed, once the miners are out of the mine, rehabilitation and adjusting to their celebrity status. you'll recall the miners became trapped during a cave-in back on august 5th. they fled for the safety -- for their safety back deeper into the mine. they're now at a depth of about 2,300 feet surviving in an area about the size of a small living room. a supply shaft is being used to
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jessica yellin and the cnn express are in columbus, ohio. jessica, what is crossing the ticker right now? >> reporter: hey, ali. the ninth time is a charm, that's what florida's democratic senate hopeful kendrick meek is hoping. he's flying from florida to new york city for a big fund-raiser where he's hoping bill clinton will help him bring in big dollars. they have a long history going back some two decades when meek was a state trooper. he first met then governor clinton and the former president helped him clinch the nomination for the democratic party's senate seat in. but meek is trailing badly against charlie crist and republican hopeful marco rubio. that is a hot contest we're all watching closely. moving into delaware, we can look there at an intraparty
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fight within the republican party. the tea party express, today it rolled into wilmington, delaware, to throw more of its support behind its favorite candidate in the senate race, christine o'donnell. the tea party says national republicans are trying to undermine her candidacy and get a more moderate republican, mike castle, to win the primary. they'll be holding rallies across the state and spending at least $250,000 on radio and tv ads to support christine o'donnell's candidacy. and finally, i've got bad news for the democrats, at least if you want to listen to the prognosticators. it's going to be a republican wave in november. charlie cook of the nonpartisan cook political report says, based on his analysis, house republicans are poised to pick up 40 seats in november, that is enough to give republicans the majority and make john boehner speaker of the house.
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charlie cook found that even in districts where barack obama won 50% to 60% of the vote in 2008, democrats are not safe. >> what do they need? >> reporter: a lot of political news. >> they need 39? the republicans need to take 39 in the house? is that what will get them there? >> reporter: they need 39. and charlie cook is saying it's 40. >> you don't have a monitor there. you can't see me, can you? >> reporter: no. can you describe? >> well, i would. but ed's been doing it on twitter. he says there's too many patterns going on with what i'm wearing. >> reporter: i love patterns. that's your shtick. you're good with patterns. you can do it. ed cannot. >> jessica, thank you so much. anytime you want to come on the show, open-door policy. jessica yellin with the cnn express. the president, by the way, announcing billions in tax cuts this week, literally billions. it could change your business and the november elections.
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my man, ed henry, on "the stakeout," complaining about my checks and patterns and paisleys. he's got some news as well. ????? not long ago, this man had limited mobility.
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some big announcements this week. he's going to have another one tomorrow. adds up to hundreds of billions of dollars. he's set to announce a $200 billion tax cut for businesses to invest in plant and equipment. if it goes through congress, it will last through the end of next year. he's also proposing $50 billion for infrastructure, things like roads, railways, high-speed railways, airport runways. add to that another $100 billion tax credit for businesses to put toward research and development. that's a tax credit that's already in existence. he wants to extend that. add it all together, $350 billion. put it into perspective, about half of what the huge stimulus package cost, added together, the stimulus plus this would be over a trillion dollars. however, some people think you shouldn't be adding them together, including the white house. let's go to our man, ed henry. we're going to forget about the
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people in glass houses about people with lots of patterns on their tie shouldn't throw stones -- >> reporter: you have the pattern on the tie, the pattern on the suit, the pattern on the shirt -- >> you told me once you like this combination, you like the vest that is not the same as the suit. >> reporter: you are right. i do. i wasn't lying to you. but i was referring to one time you were wearing a solid blue jacket with a gray vest. and i thought it was interesting. when you throw in the pinstripe jacket with a different color vest, i think you change the dynamic. there's a lot of feedback on twitter right now about your outfit. >> somebody said, tell ed to turn off his tie because i'm going to start disco dancing. >> reporter: i wasn't going to quote that one. someone else wanted me to ask you, does he dress himself? i assume it's yet. >> that's a compliment. i used to, ed, but now that i'm in the movies -- >> reporter: if you're angry at me, how can oliver stone get away with calling you the bald
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dome. >> he said the bald dome is going to go all the way. what's the white house saying about this $350 billion? >> reporter: they have not xhepted on your outfit yet. but robert gibbs said, it's really not $350 billion. for example, they've got some offsets they say they'll get, close some corporate tax loopholes to pay for the research and development, tax credit you mentioned. however, this is still a work in progress. we don't know if congress is going to go along with the tax credit extension -- >> in fact, wouldn't you bet that they're not likely to? that the president is not likely to get it through this session of congress? >> reporter: robert gibbs all but acknowledged that today. he said at the top of the briefing, look, we've entered the public season, sort of the silly season where it's very unlikely -- there's such a narrow window for congress to work before they all go and campaign that they're unlikely to take it up. if the president knows they're unlikely to take it up, isn't this just political, bringing it
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up knowing the republicans and the democrats on the hill aren't going to deal wit? gibbs kind of push that had away. i was pressing hill on the point of, they just said last week, robert gibbs at the podium said, this is not going to be a second stimulus. but as you know, when you add all this up, it's certainly starting to sound like a stimulus. i pressed robert on that, and he said, no, it's not a stimulus. >> obviously there's always spin that comes out. but i will give them this. these are tax breaks. >> reporter: research and development, tax breaks for investing in plants and equipment. i was having a conversation with doug heye last night who like many republicans refer to this administration as a remarkably anti-business administration. out of that $350 billion, 300 are tax breaks to businesses, not to individuals. >> reporter: right, absolutely. that is a good point to make. what robert was going back and forth on the briefing -- in the briefing, however, is if the president really wants to reach out to business and do that, why didn't he introduce these tax cuts, say, six months ago when
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he had a better shot of maybe getting senator harry reid and the senate to bring this up. when you've got a three or four-week window in late september, early october, it's going to be really hard to get it done. interesting follow-up from savannah guthrie when robert gibbs said, it's not a second stimulus. she said f you answer it that way, are you saying the president's proposals aren't going to stimulate the economy? at the end of the day, is it not a stimulus package, is it not going to stimulate the government? robert gibbs said this is an economic recovery plan. they're still working on recovery -- >> they never called it the stimulus plan. we should do that as a "wordplay." >> reporter: at the beginning, but then it became the recovery act. you're absolutely right. they sold it as, it was going to jolt the economy, it was going to jump-start things. in fairness to them, there have been government reports and
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private economists who have said this probably saved or created about 3.3 million jobs. it's had an impact. republican saying the stimulus hasn't worked at all. that's not true. however, as it worked as well as the president thought, maybe not. and has it made up for the hole -- as the president acknowledges add he did in milwaukee yesterday, the gap is lot bigger than anyone anticipated. >> that's the issue. the issue isn't that it didn't create jobs -- and i know someone's going to tweet me and tell me that i don't know what i'm talking about. it did create jobs. we know money that went directly to hiring teachers and policemen and firemen. we know that that money created jobs. but the hole was deeper than they expected so we lost much more than we were expecting to lose. but we're at this point getting into semantics and that's the silly season. we're going to debate every last word said about the economy. >> reporter: that's right. and last friday, you were picking up on in the latest unemployment report that there
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finally was some real growth there and we've seen some before. but you're seeing it continue in the private sector jobs. that's really where it's ultimately got to come back. they need a lot more of that. bottom line, what the president is proposing tomorrow, unlikely to pass before the election. >> ed, such a good conversation that for a moment i stopped being self-conscious about my patterns -- >> reporter: was jessica yellin saying your shtick is to have odd patterns -- >> that might have been a dig, right? >> reporter: maybe. you better talk to her. >> ed, good to see you. i'm going to try to hide my tie. i've got the "wordplay" straight ahead. this time, it's a word you all know. i guarantee you will know a lot more about it before i'm through. [ rattling ] [ gasps ] [ rattling ]
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it is time now for "wordplay." and today, actions speak louder than words. case in point, demonstration, it's what the vacuum cleaner salesman does on your living room carpet. it's also how americans like to make a point. people demonstrate all over the world showing group feelings toward a person or a cause. but here in america, venting grievances is a birthright and there's a lot of different ways to go about it. in the controversy over plans to build an islamic cultural center in lower manhattan and more broadly over islam's place in america. both sides have marched and rallied. as we've reported, opponents have sometimes done worse. now come plans by an evangelical pastor in florida to burn copies of the koran on september 11th on the premise that, quote,
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islam is of the devil. that happens to be the title of the pastor's book. in response, an awesome array of religious leaders from around the world and across the spectrum are demonstrating values from other books. i'll say more about this in my "xyz." i want to deliver a message of hope for you. [ female announcer ] in the grip of arthritis, back, or back joint pain?
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in america's struggle to be a more perfect society. in the last few weeks, we've seen a vicious attack on a muslim taxi driver in new york, hate signs at a mosque in california, an arson attack on a mosque under construction in tennessee, the fire bombing of a mosque in florida and a warning by muslims to other muslims to keep a low profile on september 11, the end of the holy month of ramadan, for fear of being attacked. america's history with regard to religious, ethnic and culture is more than ever born. in 1960, jewish refugees were attempted to be expelled. and a charter was drawn up that explicitly banned catholicism. strict limits on immigration calls started to grow. the ku klux klan

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